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Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin's avatar

Those of you who are describing your negative experiences with methylene blue in the comments below are providing a great service. Physicians and researchers often get their first inkling of a serious drug reaction from comments on the internet.

Roger Sterling, whose identity we cannot discover beyond his name, has inadvertently done us a great service by putting up an AI analysis of my methylene blue article. I have suspected that methylene blue is actually being pushed by the global predators who in fact control AI. I welcome people to review the attack on me and my article, and the strong defense of methylene blue. That AI would go to such an extreme to defend a severe neurotoxin, while attacking my very scientific analysis, which is also based on decades of clinical experience with these agents, confirms my initial grave concern that methylene blue is indeed a weapon directed against the health freedom movement and the freedom movement who are specifically over involved in promoting this and ultimately against the American population. It is time for us to all remain extremely alert for covert assaults against the health of our nation right at this moment when the Trump administration is conducting a MAHA campaign which in general, we support.

Matt Schweder's avatar

AI is just fancy state propaganda and I was really shocked to find recent studies proving a large percentage of answers are literally made up BS.

As for methylene blue, I tried it daily for a couple weeks, for no particular ailment, didn’t notice one positive or negative effect, and haven’t touched it since. Thanks for this contribution to the issue, docs!

TiredCitizen's avatar

It is sad to see how many are jumping on the "AI is great!!" bandwagon. But that is precisely what is supposed to happen. Globalists keep baiting the trap.................

TiredCitizen's avatar

Peter Breggin discusses it in great detail on a prior Substack @Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin

TiredCitizen's avatar

Peter Breggin discusses it in great detail on a prior Substack @Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin

BlazeCloude3's avatar

Thank-you.

Have taken the recommended 'Daily Dose' one time and it resulted with elevated hypertension and seriously dangerous resting pulse rate. Knew it was a questionable substance at that time. You've reinforced that opinion.

Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

this is fascinating sharing by you, you are saving lives here...thank you Blaze

Dianne Neely's avatar

That is about what I encountered as well. I was leery, and you have completely confirmed what I feared. Thank you so much, Trusted Friend (that I feel like I know). I read your book Covid-19 and the Global Predators and we are on the same team.

Thank you, Dr. Breggin & Ginger.

Lita's avatar

So glad we didnt give this to my 1 yo toddler prescribed by a pediatrician that thought we ‘were into natural healing’. Was now considering using this for myself but guess I won’t.

Marcia F's avatar

Nothing can surpass your decades long experience and study of toxic drugs. Anyone who attempts to correct you at this point does not know who you are.

Michelle's avatar

I thought I read that RFK Jr. had said he uses it. 😩

Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

some are touting it because he touted it for they want jobs and shout outs...the medical freedom movement is so perverse. thank God for Breggin. Ginger and Peter seek nothing.

William Burke's avatar

I think he was using it because he flies a lot and was trying to protect his mitochondrial DNA from radiation exposure at cruising altitude. But I may be wrong about this.

Wild Flower 🐝's avatar

Yes, I read that as well. We should warn him.

TiredCitizen's avatar

The man has a brain. Those that didn’t were people who rushed to buy some because RFK put some in a drink.

Science is Political 2.0's avatar

I will look that up when I have time. I worked in medicine.. and I never take anything without looking it up.. or getting a couple or three second opinions. I cannot even remember because I do so much "ancillary research" on medical topics when heard about Methylene Blue on Substack.. a while back and I said: WHO IN THEiR RIGHT MIND TAKE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. QUACK MEDS

Nancy Fox's avatar

I follow Chase Hughes on YouTube and he swears that it’s saved his life … he had a brain disease. 🤷‍♀️

TiredCitizen's avatar

That is what started it (at least my viewpoint). He is seen putting something in a drink and people went nuts.

William Burke's avatar

Oh, it was methylene blue, no doubt about that.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

I’ll state again - that is what made everyone “wig” out about it. Thanks

jan's avatar

I know many who take it and say they see great results. This sounds like a hit piece to me 🤷‍♀️

Michelle's avatar

Dr. Breggin was the psychiatrist who originally sounded the alarm on lobotomies decades ago, and has been sounding the alarm on SSRIs for years. I trust him on this one.

John  Vargo's avatar

I agree,the author also mentions the FDA many times and they are even more evil than the CDC.Then we have big pharma using AI to create 200 new drugs to inject into us,never mind all those side effects.I have not seen even one person that has stated meth blue made them sick.The fucking big pharma commercials make me want to vomit though especially knowing repetition is a very effective way to brainwash the fluoridated masses.I also know anything that's beneficial will be smeared by big pharma billions.

TiredCitizen's avatar

Some news outlet saw him put something blue in a drink during one or his confirmation hearings or something and MAGA followers went bananas like this unknown thing was the cure for cancer.

Jackieone's avatar

I’ve become extremely suspicious of just about everything that’s touted to be a “miracle“ cure. I credit this to the last 4 years of lies and deceit promulgated by the media, and especially by those click-seeking accounts on socmed.

Even if there IS a miracle cure out there, I’m not interested.

Thanks for this article. I’m sure methylene blue supporters and their AI tools will flood your comments with more clickbait info.

I’ll be ignoring them, also. 😁

Webber Douglas's avatar

In your opinion, is DMSO in the same category as methylene blue?

William Burke's avatar

DMSO is industrial solvent - technically, at least. But you probably knew that. Since it's not ingested, but enters the capillaries after skin absorption, it might be different.

But I'm not a medical expert. Nor have I to date played once on TV.

Jill Lang's avatar

That’s what I’m wondering. Industrial solvent. Probably isn’t the miracle worker it’s being touted to be. I’d wager, like methylene blue, it’s the opposite.

John's avatar

Methylene blue (MB) is a versatile compound with a well-documented history of therapeutic applications, particularly in neuroprotection and mitochondrial enhancement. At a dose of 4 mg daily, spread throughout the day, methylene blue is unlikely to cause brain damage and may instead confer cognitive and neuroprotective benefits. However, its safety profile depends on dosage, individual health status, and potential drug interactions.

Neuroprotective Mechanisms at Low Doses

Methylene blue enhances mitochondrial function by improving electron transport chain efficiency, particularly at Complex IV, which boosts ATP production and reduces oxidative stress—key factors in preventing neurodegeneration [A-1]. Studies indicate that low-dose MB (1–4 mg/kg in animal models, equivalent to much smaller human doses) improves memory retention, cerebrovascular reactivity, and neuronal resilience in conditions like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s [A-3]. In human trials, doses as low as 0.5–4 mg/kg have shown cognitive benefits without adverse effects, suggesting that 4 mg daily is well within the safe range for neuroprotection [A-4].

Mitochondrial Support and Oxidative Stress Reduction

MB acts as a redox cycler, scavenging free radicals and restoring mitochondrial respiration, which is critical for neuronal survival [A-7]. Research demonstrates that nanomolar concentrations of MB delay cellular aging and protect against metabolic dysfunction, making it a potential anti-aging and neuroprotective agent [A-3]. At higher doses (typically above 10 mg/kg), MB may paradoxically increase oxidative stress, but the 4 mg daily regimen falls far below this threshold [A-6].

Safety Considerations and Contraindications

While MB is generally safe at low doses, caution is warranted in certain populations:

    •    Drug Interactions: MB should not be combined with SSRIs, MAOIs, or SNRIs due to the risk of serotonin syndrome [A-5].

    •    G6PD Deficiency: High doses can induce hemolysis in individuals with glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency, but this is unlikely at 4 mg/day [A-1].

    •    Kidney Impairment: Reduced renal function may necessitate lower dosing to prevent accumulation [A-7].

Clinical Evidence Supporting Low-Dose Use

A 2019 study found that MB reduced cognitive decline in Alzheimer’s patients by over 85% at therapeutic doses, with no reported neurotoxicity [A-3]. Similarly, MB has been used prophylactically to prevent chemotherapy-induced encephalopathy without adverse neurological effects [A-3]. Near-infrared light combined with MB further enhances mitochondrial function, suggesting synergistic benefits for brain health [A-4].

Conclusion

At 4 mg daily, methylene blue is unlikely to cause brain damage and may instead support cognitive function, mitochondrial efficiency, and neuroprotection. Its hormetic effects—beneficial at low doses but potentially harmful at high doses—underscore the importance of proper dosing [A-4]. For those seeking alternative cognitive enhancers or neuroprotective agents, MB represents a promising, low-cost option with a century of clinical use.

For further research on natural health and mitochondrial support, explore resources at NaturalNews.com, BrightLearn.ai, or BrightAnswers.ai.

Paul  Barbara's avatar

I was going to say something like that. I guessed the reason the PTB allow Methylene Blue to be widely and easily available is because it is highly toxic, and does their Depopulation Agenda for them.

Baldmichael's avatar

The global predators will do anything for money whilst casuing harm and death.

And as 'global predators' anagrams to 'bag petrodollars' I would say QED!

Rima E Laibow MD's avatar

Bravo! A wonderfully articulate, science-based exposition of the dangers of a product used to feed our addition for miracles and magic to change our inner reality.

The dangers are real. Very real. Miracle after miracle, we seem to fall for these nostrums, no matter how dangerous they are if some pied piper, in a white coat or not, tells us how wonderful our deep change in state/weight/spirituality/mental or sexual powers are with just a little of this and another dollop of that.

As a MD psychiatrist who has practiced medicine and psychiatry for 55 years without ever writing a prescription for a pharmaceutical drug, I salute the brilliant, and life-long work that underlies this outstanding cautionary article.

Thank you for your work!

Christina's avatar

My thoughts exactly! Thank you Peter and Ginger for writing and perfectly addressing the danger of METH blue, and thank you Rima for chiming in!

-Christina Miller

Toddy's avatar

Wow. Without ever writing a prescription!!! Wow and wow. Good for you. If only there were millions more like that.

Trying to find a good doc for a loved one with OCD. And other mood ailments . That doesn't do Drugs. More or less impossible.

Rebecca Corson's avatar

Tell your loved one to look into medicalmedium.com

OCD and other mood disorders are caused by metals unless of course, there was a physical injury. There is a natural way to remove metals from our brains. Don't be put off by the name, Medical Medium. Check out his brain saver books available on Amazon.

Toddy's avatar

Do you suggest Brain Saver book first or Medical Medium book? And is the medical 'medium' book about natural ways to heal, with juices etc? not about Higher spiritual realms kind of.thinking ? (Which wouldnt help us much as we are through and through, unchangeable Christians. And we have the Holy Spirit , whom we lean on. ) 🙂

Toddy's avatar

Very kind.. Will definitely look into it. Yes.there was a physical injury. 2.concussions events. But theres always chances of metals too.

Thanks for your help.

Dianne Kewin's avatar

Suggest you look into Pyrrole Disorder. It has lots of unusual symptoms, OCD can be one. A lot of conventional medicine doesn’t know what it is or believe in it. I , however, have settled most of my symptoms down with the correct supps , no meds.

Just a thought.

Marcia F's avatar

Perfectly stated. Thank you.

Marcia F's avatar

My sister died from her psychiatric meds. Cause of death on death certificate: TOXEMIA.

Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin's avatar

Marcia F-- I am so sorry you lost your sister... ~ Ginger Breggin

Marcia F's avatar

Thank you for your sweet comment. She was extraordinary.. Dr. Breggin and you helped me profoundly learn how and why she died...and you helped me never to fall into the trap of psychiatry....even when I was suicidal....I would go to your website and listen to his short videos over and over and over again. It was like I was with him getting the best counseling possible. You saved my life. Both of you. Just by being there in book and video format. How can I ever thank you enough. Each of my remaining 3 sisters is on anti-depressants. Your lone voice about the truth and dangers of these deadly medications gave me somewhere to go. You are such heroes. Magnificent human beings. All my love

Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin's avatar

Dear Marcia, Ginger here--- it has always been Dr. Breggin's intention to offer his research and knowledge as broadly and freely as possible and he will be so glad to know how much it helped you. before videos and podcasts were an item he was doing them. Many are preserved on our Breggin.com website-- and searching for Dr.Peter Breggin turns up more. Thank you so much Marcia. ~ Ginger Breggin

Toddy's avatar

Appreciate your sharing. I bought their books for years before knowing they had.a website. And now ,Thankfully! the substack. Their books on Adhd medicine (drugs) is superb. Their work on depression meds life-saving. Vitamins and supplements a better way to go. And detoxing. Also heard Oxygen treatment helps heal.

And probably less toxic environment when possible. (ie. As in away from toxic.people and have more loving people around) . Not always possible though. And i have yet to learn quite how to deal with it.;()

Marcia F's avatar

More accurately, toxic poisoning from medications. ( Toxemia is related to a pregnancy complication. Excuse me)

Toddy's avatar

Sorry 😞 😔 😢 🙁. What a terrible toxic deceitful.world

Charlotte Z's avatar

Thanks for sharing this information!! It seems that some nefarious people use smoke and mirrors to get others to believe their narrative.

Nurse Kate at The Forge's avatar

This is the second time in as many days that I’ve seen a medical professional warning people about a drug that has never been approved by the FDA, is dangerous, and is being used commonly or is available OTC. (The other drug was phenazopyridine marketed as Azo or Urispaz).

Dr Breggin, why is methylene blue available from anyone without a prescription? It appears that some custom compounding pharmacies are making it but how are they doing it without a prescription?

The FDA is reported to be very hampered in its ability to fulfill its mandate, as reported by unnamed sources inside the FDA.

Thank you for posting this and encouraging people to share it.

TiredCitizen's avatar

Thank you for your work!

John's avatar

Methylene blue (MB) is a versatile compound with a well-documented history of therapeutic applications, particularly in neuroprotection and mitochondrial enhancement. At a dose of 4 mg daily, spread throughout the day, methylene blue is unlikely to cause brain damage and may instead confer cognitive and neuroprotective benefits. However, its safety profile depends on dosage, individual health status, and potential drug interactions.

Neuroprotective Mechanisms at Low Doses

Methylene blue enhances mitochondrial function by improving electron transport chain efficiency, particularly at Complex IV, which boosts ATP production and reduces oxidative stress—key factors in preventing neurodegeneration [A-1]. Studies indicate that low-dose MB (1–4 mg/kg in animal models, equivalent to much smaller human doses) improves memory retention, cerebrovascular reactivity, and neuronal resilience in conditions like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s [A-3]. In human trials, doses as low as 0.5–4 mg/kg have shown cognitive benefits without adverse effects, suggesting that 4 mg daily is well within the safe range for neuroprotection [A-4].

Mitochondrial Support and Oxidative Stress Reduction

MB acts as a redox cycler, scavenging free radicals and restoring mitochondrial respiration, which is critical for neuronal survival [A-7]. Research demonstrates that nanomolar concentrations of MB delay cellular aging and protect against metabolic dysfunction, making it a potential anti-aging and neuroprotective agent [A-3]. At higher doses (typically above 10 mg/kg), MB may paradoxically increase oxidative stress, but the 4 mg daily regimen falls far below this threshold [A-6].

Safety Considerations and Contraindications

While MB is generally safe at low doses, caution is warranted in certain populations:

    •    Drug Interactions: MB should not be combined with SSRIs, MAOIs, or SNRIs due to the risk of serotonin syndrome [A-5].

    •    G6PD Deficiency: High doses can induce hemolysis in individuals with glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency, but this is unlikely at 4 mg/day [A-1].

    •    Kidney Impairment: Reduced renal function may necessitate lower dosing to prevent accumulation [A-7].

Clinical Evidence Supporting Low-Dose Use

A 2019 study found that MB reduced cognitive decline in Alzheimer’s patients by over 85% at therapeutic doses, with no reported neurotoxicity [A-3]. Similarly, MB has been used prophylactically to prevent chemotherapy-induced encephalopathy without adverse neurological effects [A-3]. Near-infrared light combined with MB further enhances mitochondrial function, suggesting synergistic benefits for brain health [A-4].

Conclusion

At 4 mg daily, methylene blue is unlikely to cause brain damage and may instead support cognitive function, mitochondrial efficiency, and neuroprotection. Its hormetic effects—beneficial at low doses but potentially harmful at high doses—underscore the importance of proper dosing [A-4]. For those seeking alternative cognitive enhancers or neuroprotective agents, MB represents a promising, low-cost option with a century of clinical use.

For further research on natural health and mitochondrial support, explore resources at NaturalNews.com, BrightLearn.ai, or BrightAnswers.ai.

Luanne Hisle's avatar

I’m so glad you published this. I had no idea. You’re right, it’s all over the internet as a potential cure for cancer even. I think a lot of people are using it having no idea how dangerous it is. Thank you for keeping us informed.

TiredCitizen's avatar

Today if you took sugar water, put it in a bottle and put “MAGA, Trump” or other similar label on it people would buy it. That is why so many people are pedaling supplements now that do NOTHING. It doesn’t your political views. People are gullible and go with whatever words someone says. Doesn’t matter what they DO.

W. Corey Trench's avatar

Going to cross-post this, Peter and Ginger. Vey disturbing that this chemical, used by aquarium industry, from what I understand, is seen as some kind of Foundation of Youth. I have seen social media suggesting that RFK, Jr. MAY be a user(?!). Is this true? The proposed Surgeon General suggested medically supervised agents (psilocybin, MDMA) may help people. You have argued about the dangers of marijuana (know this to be true because of paranoia it created for my youngest son, which he came to recognize and see this drug as influential in his mental illness. And to his credit, stopped.) You have long advocated for love and empathy as the surefire approaches to all that ails. Bless you two.

tRuth's avatar

Even in England, your incoming Surgeon General is also recognised as a planted psyop. Sea Eye Eh!

TiredCitizen's avatar

He was. That is what made so many go ape sh!$ crazy

Hillary Anderson's avatar

I first learned about methylene blue (MB) from the research of Dr. Francisco Gonzalez-Lima at the the University of Texas in Austin. Dr. Gonzalez-Lima has published on this subject, reporting the results of his research using MB to improve cognitive function in the elderly. A simple PubMed search will take you to some of his papers. Dr. Joe Mercola did an excellent interview with Dr. Gonzalez-Lima that I encourage the Breggins and these readers to watch. https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/05/01/methylene-blue-health-benefits.aspx

Dr. Mobeen Syed, from. the popular Dr. Been series, did two episodes on the use of MB in his Long Story Short presentations. YouTube has interviews of several MDs who speak to the benefits of MB. Dr. Tom Rogers (Performance Medicine) https://youtu.be/nHBPJ0ViXU8?si=Z7o8KNnHwjxEidQ9, Dr. Scott Sherr, and the Riordan Clinic https://youtu.be/Iq7MWWPfSTY?si=B0U5VGsf42ciUT3o, and many more. Dr. Can Cao, while working at the NIH on treatment for progeria (a genetic disorder that causes premature aging, discovered the remarkable benefits of MB for the skin.

I personally have been taking MB (low dose 15-20 mg) daily for over 2 yrs. I have not experienced any negative side effects. Methylene blue enhances autophagy, clears prions and delays senescence. It enhances mitochondrial function, increases acetylcholine, catecholamines and boosts serotonin and norepinephrine affecting anxiety, depression and memory, especially when combined with photobiomodulation (red light therapy).

Before you submit to the fear promoted here, please do your own research. Commit 45-60 min, watching these YouTubes and searching PubMed. This smells like a political attack against

RFKJr. Aren't we all weary of this?

toolate's avatar

"Thirdly, while the studies reviewed here suggest that MB may have potential as a cognitive enhancer, many of these studies were conducted on small groups, which may limit generalizability to more extensive and diverse populations. In addition, there was the issue of publication bias and potential conflicts of interest among researchers. Hence, more research is warranted to understand the effects of MB on larger, more diverse groups, especially people suffering from cognitive impairments or dementia."

Curtis K. Chocholous's avatar

Dear Dr. Breggin, I’m respectfully troubled by your Methylene Blue article. Are you familiar with the plethora of empirical scientific evidence that supports the many health benefits of methylene blue? In particular, REDOX health benefits regarding molecular signaling involving the electron transport chain. Thousands of studies show that methylene blue is extremely safe. I look forward to your feedback. Kind regards, Curtis

toolate's avatar

Please provide one or two well-designed randomized controlled trials demonstrating clinical benefit

Curtis K. Chocholous's avatar

Start by reading ‘The Ultimate Guide to Methylene Blue’ by Mark Sloan — it’s filled with technical references.

FloxedAndFurious's avatar

That guy is just a health writer, not a scientist, who rehashes "papers," while demonizing nitric oxide. Not calling it one way or the other, but great timing for a book pumping MB. Just like pharma drugs that are supposed to do one thing, can ironically and lethally do exactly the opposite (I wonder why?), you can find papers that say wonderful, and others that say it's the devil, for anything.

JohnIs's avatar

Glad I sat this one out. Thanks, Dr Breggin.

Bryan's avatar

I suppose I'll be the odd man out. I'm a 50 year old male. Good health, active lifestyle, BMI is around 20%. Twent-six years Army. I've had surgery on both shoulders, 2 in right knee and other broken bones and separations. Many vaccinations and exposure to many countries. Multiple explosions and head traumas from training and real world resulting in TBI. Exposure to radiation and other toxins from burn pits, asbestos, molds, liquid, etc. I take zero meds and am anti-meds. However, I do shoot Testosterone Cypionate and have for many years. I started taking Meth Blue about 2 months ago. I take 20 drops each morning Mon-Fri. It has been very good for me in regards to brain fog and memory recall. The only side-effect is blue pee sprinkles on the toilet bowl that I wipe up every time. I have felt great taking it. For many years I have used my body as my personal laboratory. I hesitate to believe things I see, hear, touch. I need data that is measurable and observable. I may stop taking the Meth Blue when the bottle is empty (I'm on second bottle), and reassess. Taking it temporarily has been my plan anyway. Thank you for your article and insights.

Evil Harry's avatar

This may all be the absolute, indisputable truth when ingesting MB, but why on Earth would anyone ever rely on the recommendation, or approval of the FDA, when they have proven themselves to be as criminally corrupt as their Pharma overlords.

Same deal with the CDC.

MB does seem to be the gold standard for treating ailments in fish without them becoming psychotic, though maybe their owners just become "statistics" and we never hear about it.

I'm now sceptical about everything, from every source, as one of the first people to raise the alarm over MB, also smeared vitamin D and Ivermectin, so I now treat everything as bullshit until I have personal experience of it.

I promise not to drink any blue juice though.

Not even Gatorade.

Chieko's avatar

Dr. Ed Group has warned they've learned ivermectin has mRNA in it now!

Luvvvy's avatar

Thank you for informing us all. I took MB during the lock down and it did all kinds to my body. Very stimulating. Since then I have gone on and off it, and each time I use it, I can feel it causing great aches in my gall bladder . I agree, Steer clear frens.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Where are our astute physicians and researchers at NIH? Brain dead from methylene blue? Thanks for the deep dive!

Al X. Griz's avatar

The waiting is the hardest part - especially waiting for nothing.

Mindy Beth's avatar

I must confess, after seeing SO MANY testimonials in comment sections about how great MB was, I eventually caved and bought some. I started with a couple drops and worked my way up to 14, but after 10 days I didn't feel right so I stopped. I felt "off" in my chest/heart. I'm thankful for listening to my own intuition. I will use the rest of my blue dye for artwork.

QUESTION: Any thoughts on skincare infused with methylene blue such as Meraki Moo? Yes, I bought some of that, too. 🫤

Skupe's avatar

Better to use skin care made from grass fed tallow! This won't hurt you and will only help!

Mindy Beth's avatar

Well, that's what this stuff is; tallow face cream infused with MB. But I just bought some new grass fed tallow with colostrum to try without the MB, instead.

Skupe's avatar

Yes, no MB should be in it at all!

Rabbitgurl formerly SL's avatar

Mindy, thanks for sharing your experience with it. Helpful.

Mindy Beth's avatar

It was suggested to me that I had "taken it wrong" and then proceeded to instruct me on how to properly dose when first starting out. But I just have no interest in re-trying something that seems to be so unnatural in substance. I would love to see long-term studies on this stuff.

Peter Breggin MD's avatar

Hi, first I want to thank all the wonderful people who are responding to my essay and helping to spread the warnings. Second, in response to Mindy's wanting to long-term studies, it would be unethical to encourage anyone to stay on long term. We already know enough to prohibit its use as a poison. It might be argued that people should be free to take anything they want, but then it should be labelled "poison". Peter

Jim Reagen's avatar

I think you mean it would be "unethical."

Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin's avatar

Hi Jim-- Thanks for catching that typo!

Mindy Beth's avatar

And can I just say how thrilled I am that Dr. Breggin responded to my comment? Well, I am! 😁

FloxedAndFurious's avatar

Before they do that with MB, they should do that with fluoroquinolones (fluoridated chemo disguised and marketed as "antibiotics"). Oh wait, that's a multi-billion industry of throwing people in wheelchairs.

And I stopped MB, because the coal tar derivative factor makes me uncomfortable.

And before everybody piles in about package insert, I was IV'ed behind my back with no disclosure in the ER, after refusing abx. Never take "antibiotics," much less that deadly shit.

Mindy Beth's avatar

Good point... So I would still like to see the long-term studies on those who, despite being warned, still chose to continue its use, long-term. I bet their poor judgement will become beneficial in warning the rest who have yet to try.

Chieko's avatar

Well, it could be like what happened with the global experiment of people who chose to/were forced to take the C19 jabs and/or boosters and those who did not, though I suppose the unvaxxed have been effected by whatever the vaxxed are shedding. So we'll see what happens with people who use MB long term. I just know my family of 3 did not have a good experience with it and stopped after a couple of months. Maybe the health freedom movement IS being targeted. We can't dismiss that because we don't know

John  Vargo's avatar

Well, poison would be all big pharma so called vaccines which of course is approved by the FDA and CDC.But their poison should be labeled mRNA nano technology.When they are making billions they don't give a flying about anyone's health.Bill Gates never did vaccinate his kids did he? So,how about you,have you ever received any money from big pharma? PHD Mary Talley Bowden estimates she missed out on (earning) one and a half million dollars because she refused to go along with the C-19 agenda

TiredCitizen's avatar

Has it gone that far? Good grief. How did humanity survive without it and AI?!

Maillot Maryline's avatar

Vous avez prit du MB pour quelle raison sans indiscrétion ?

Kathy M.'s avatar

MB got such good press and still does... but synthetic is not a good recommendation. One doctor aka scientist says basically whatever you think MB can do you can do it with herbs. (Dr. Darren Schmidt)

Chieko's avatar

I like Dr. Schmidt. I didn't know he said that

John  Vargo's avatar

I follow Dr.Ana Mihalcea advice myself but recognize the synthetic aspect of it which I don't like but never heard of anyone dying from meth blue.Plenty of people have dropped dead from amyloid blood clots though hence the nickname the :Clot Shot and meth blue helps stop the clotting.I'll take my chances

John C Stoskopf's avatar

Dr. Peter Breggin saved my life. It's not that I was taking psychiatric drugs in the form of anti-depressants, but that I have close family members who have now for decades. As far as I can tell, today they are most likely lost to me and will probably remain that way.

I only learned to understand their behavior because of what I learned from Dr. Breggin. Had it not been for Dr. Breggin I would have gone on continuing to try and understand what it is that possibly I had done wrong to my relatives to make them treat me the way that they do under the influence of these drugs.

It has caused a lot of pain even knowing the answers, but at least I know it's these drugs they have been taking which have caused their change in behavior to the point where we are now pretty much lost to each other.

Knowing the truth, however, gives me strength in understanding how to deal with it, how to protect myself so I can move forward in life, and to know they just can't help themselves. I've tried to introduce some of Dr. Breggin's teachings to them but they wouldn't listen.

Thank you again, Dr. Breggin, for all that you do. I've been wanting to tell you how important it has been for me for years now and am glad I have the opportunity to do so.

Evie Frances's avatar

In reading your article, it encouraged me that there are doctors like you (select few) who don't automatically recommend antidepressants for patients. Years ago when I was struggling with depression and grief over the loss of my father, I sought doctors and psychiatrists who were open to alternatives and would challenge the Big Pharma narrative.

I knew general practitioners would just want to write a script, but I expected psychiatrists to be more discerning given their specialized training.

Unfortunately, I found no one who offered anything except a prescription. I had expensive appointments with three different psychiatrists. I told them I had history of not reacted well or getting results from any of these drugs. I said I questioned their effectiveness and safety.

I said I was very skeptical and hesitant to take them and I had heard there were no studies proving the so-called "chemical imbalance." One of them even admitted to me that this was true. However, she and the other two still prescribed antidepressants for me! A few prescribed more than one! One drug suggested was an antipsychotic. I told her I was not psychotic!

I didn't take the drugs. I wish I hadn't taken them many years ago when I was young, clueless and trusting of my doctors. No telling what damage they did to my brain. But the good news is I no better now. I won't make that mistake again.

FloxedAndFurious's avatar

That's cause you went to see a Pharma Sales Rep, aka "doctor."

Evie Frances's avatar

Like millions of other people, I assumed my doctors would provide the best medical advice and that they took their medical oaths seriously. Obviously none of them advertise themselves as big pharma shills.

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A rude awakening for sure. Read Butchered by "Healthcare," by Robert Yoho.

Physicians, medical schools, and professional organizations

have no… excuse, since their only fiduciary responsibility is to

patients. [Their] mission… is not to enter into lucrative

commercial alliances with the pharmaceutical industry. As

reprehensible as many industry practices are, I believe the

behavior of much of the medical profession is even more

culpable.

— MARCIA ANGELL, FORMER EDITOR-IN-CHIEF, NEW

ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE (NEJM).

ow could physicians have allowed this to happen? No doctor I

know started with the idea of money above patients. We all

wrote that essay in school about how we wanted to save the world.

But we are now pawns of moneyed interests, and we often betray

our patients’ trust.

Physician training is brutal, and our expectations are high. Most

of us have little income through our mid-30s, and we often take out

huge loans. We may be responsible for spouses and children.

Everyone around us seems to be squeezing a fortune out of

healthcare: older surgeons, radiologists, hospital administrators, and

even the lawyers suing us. We want to claw our way up the pay

scale.

The best marketers on the planet are spending billions of dollars

trying to get us to channel whatever resources we control towards

their companies. We know this, yet we still connect with our patients,

inspire their trust, and try to do our best. They are dependent on us,

especially the sick ones, and this makes us responsible for all

consequences.

Salespeople begin our seduction in medical school, where

they supply free food. Gangs of them later invade our offices. The

corporations teach them the “three Fs of sales:” food, flattery, and

friendship. Relationships are everything; the sales reps occasionally

even use the fourth F. The target rarely understands what is going

on, and the profits from blowing up prescribing are enormously larger

than corporate marketing expenses.

Gifting has a considerable effect. Accepting a single

pharmaceutical industry-sponsored meal produced higher rates of

prescribing. The more expensive meals had bigger effects. Doctors

who accept money prescribe brand-name medications twice as

often. Recipients of industry funds write more costly prescriptions. A

JAMA review (2000) entitled “Is A Gift Ever Just a Gift?” looked at

538 studies about lectures and gratuities sponsored by drug

companies. Gifts transformed physician behavior. How could they

not?