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Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin's avatar

Dear Robert Yoho: This is Peter Breggin. Ginger and I have always had very fond feelings for you. And we have always been very pleased how much you acknowledged that your initial interview with me introduced you to the evil realities of COVID and the global predators. So, it is ironic now that you are schooling me about the evil faced by Trump which of course I have specifically addressed in many of our substack columns. I’m writing to you specifically because your comments were so shocking to Ginger that I wanted to relieve her of the responsibility of responding. So maybe you can imagine the restraint with which I am now responding. Specifically, we didn’t want to just delete your comment and spared ourselves this rebuttal.

As for your remark about sitting on the sidelines—what you are urging me to do is to sit on the sidelines by not facing the enormous threat in Bobby Kennedy’s absolute refusal to do anything to slow down the continued onslaught of the COVID-19 mRNA jabs, which are literally slaughtering, maiming, disabling, and sterilizing millions of Americans and probably billions of people around the world.

So contrary to standing on the sidelines, I couldn’t bear to stand on the sidelines! After much consideration, I realized that if I did not make the difficult decision of calling for definitive action, or for RFK to quit or be fired, that I would literally be a co-conspirator to the COVID conspiracy, which many rightly call a genocide or a democide.

Justin's avatar

Between the article and this response, has it not been evident that it was two FDA employees who allegedly approved the Moderna vaccine while Kennedy was on vacation? Two people lost their jobs over this, and would certainly have grounds to sue if Kennedy had indeed approved this.

I haven't read the initial letter that triggered this response, but it just seems like there are factors being used unfairly to tarnish Kennedy. I realize he has to walk a tight line in how he progresses, and I believe there is a contract through 2029 for the vaccines to be purchased by the government. I don't know the cost of breaking the contract, but it could result in huge amounts of money the government pays pfizer. I think the best that can be done now is to gather evidence to get out of the contract, and possibly time it for maximum impact. Ethically, I think that such evidence should be provided as soon as possible to negate any further harm.

I hope that in the end, people are respectful in their differences, and that collectively, we work together to take down the evil that has initiated this poison vaccine program.

The Green Hornet's avatar

Fraud vitiates everything. Including government contracts.

Justin's avatar

You're right.

Has there not been enough proof of fraud to escape this contract? I know there's a high bar, and that there are legal ways to avoid discovery of it. But certainly there would be enough by now to show it... right?

weaponized gels's avatar

On a sidenote, Covid 19, 911 Di(e) by VOC, uncovered using surv. night cam footage and some lucky data info; covid itself is the successful attempt to keep a cartel-like system that converts industrial solvent, benzene, into a quick off gassing (15 min time period.) spray formula system in place, (as well as pastes and gel form organic poisons). Poisoner death cults so highly organized and paid in place. Like Bolshevic's of old, they've been seeded into neighborhood's, ventilation heating and cooling system contracts, ( fiber optic triggered) as a stalking program. They'll falsely allege one is pedo, or like bin laden trickery about to blow something up, as a global stalking and tiny particle spray. These highly paid nutters keep it all under the table as it were, houses cars and money by the stack. they'll never stop spraying either, till we have enough evidence of this montrous attack against the earth's inhabitants, where anyone can have surveillance cams up, and the whole thing becomes clear how they've hidden these monsters perpetrating the flu virus scam itself.

Liberty Liz's avatar

The last I heard was they quit, and weren't fired.

Justin's avatar

Thank you for that. I found this clarification article, updated since it was originally posted, stating the firings: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/robert-kennedy-jr-fires-two-top-hhs-officials/

It also now links back to Robert Malone's substack article here which raises more questions than it answers. https://www.malone.news/p/moderna-spikevax-fda-post-mortem

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

Peter and Ginger, your concerns are absolutely right but myopic. Medical issues, even this genocide, stand in second triage place to other priorities. Trump's power margin is razor thin and he cannot risk it now. For example, if Powell is allowed to continue, we will be bankrupt on our knees, naked before our globalist enemies--and we know what they will do to us.

The power Pharma wields is so vast that it cannot be challenged yet. Bide your time, possibly through the midterms, and you will see your goals realized. Finally, have more faith in RFK; he face enemies who know no ethics nor constraints.

Honest disagreements between friends should never be "shocking" unless you impute ill will, and that is never the case with me.

All my love, Robert Yoho

Kaylene Emery's avatar

Lovely civil reply . Do you think that those who have chosen to keep silent …to “ shut up “, actually comprehend the depth of their evil . Just now as I type this - I can face the answer.

sean anderson's avatar

“Anyone over 65 years of age was supposed to receive it, as was anyone else who had pre-existing conditions, including pregnant and nursing mothers” - so they can cull the pool of Social Security recipients, cull the medical system of chronically ill folks, and decrease the fertility of our women. Completely Satanic in inspiration and execution.

Skupe's avatar

I'll be 66 in October and I have been researching shots and the Fraudster on the shot nonsense through two MS degrees as well as a thesis on AIDS and nutrition and reading ads about a virus coming from China sent out by Health Sciences Institute. I know mega dose vitamin C works for every virus out there and I have been taking at least 10 grams/day of it for many years, about 20 of them. There was no way I'd ever take it. I also know that Gates and family are big-time into eugenics as are all the freaky Globalists!

T. Jeanne's avatar

I recently read about a vet using Vit C to recover farm animals and pets bitten by deadly venomous snakes.

I also recently used opened-up zinc capsules when it looked like my cat's leg was swollen w an enlarging necrotic wound - it worked despite her vigorously licking it off every time I could get it on there (which is why I didn't use diaper rash ointment - which has zinc oxide.)

Skupe's avatar

You just have to take enough to get the job done, whatever the dose might be! That goes the same with niacin, magnesium and some others!

Paul Frohlich's avatar

To absorb better drop the C or other vitamines in the blender, blernd with raw fruits. If not fluid enough ad melon or cantalope. I do this for some 30 years. You can do the same with vegetables but separately, fruits and vegetables should not be mixed together and would not put vitamines in

RLM's avatar

Does blending do the same job as liposomal liposomal Vitamin C? What about mixing vitamin C crystals into the smoothie, or just homemade lemon drink? And why is it inadvisable to mix fruit with vegetables in a smoothie? Thanks for any further explanation.

Paul Frohlich's avatar

I told you all those things, do not take me wrong, I am not against the idea of God. I just question those who creating God in their own image. No religion, no human knows what God is, where God came from, where did the Universe came from, science do not know. Man knows nothing. Socrates realized he knows nothing. God is a word for something people can't explain. To be spiritual is very good . to have faith in to something what caused the Ultimate Reality is a must. Yesterday I watched Dr. Sucharit Bhagdi with Dr. Breggin. Very impressive.

Paul Frohlich's avatar

I started to juice in my early 20, and blending almost 30 years. With fruits I got the idea to put nuts in and it was good, could last on that working all day without eating. Did that at least 25 years. Discovered almond nut skin can upset stomach, so I soaked almonds in the water to peal the skin and no problem after. Than the Coved fraud happened, worried for supply so I bought at Costco lots of nuts , stupid me I thought that nuts last forever untill I started to feel bad, discovered I used expired nuts by 2 or 3 years. Nuts will become toxic when old. Using blender for raw fruits and vegetable is wery healthy. Never in my life did I need a doctor. they only make you sick, kill you in the end. You are the best doctor you have. I stoped eating meats, fish or birds in my teens. Grew up in former communists Czechoslovakia, doctors did not cost anything, when sick do not know of any kid to go to a doctor, it was natural cure the teacher told us. Told us historically, people like N. America Indians living just on meat died early, while other on plant foods live over 100. Most kids did not care but I did think about what the teacher told us, today I know he was right. I am not religious but God in the Bible, Genessis, gave only foods from the soil to eat, not animals. But that is a mythology. A religion. Vaccines are a religion as well. And so is a religion that a human need to eat other non human creatures. do not trust anything what comes from human mouth. All about this specie is a propaganda. Human is the sickest animal on earth for a reason. Humans forgot their original foods. Be careful with blendin fruits and vegetables. different compounds. I put in my blender, in the morning, fruits only or nuts if you wish, as long as not old than vitamin C 2.000 mg, 50 zink, 2.000 vitamin D3 sometimes magnesium 50 mg. What else to tell you? Be free to ask but I can only give you advice based on my experience . I am in to observational psychology, also observe the difference between meat eaters and those who eat differently. Use common sense.

RLM's avatar

Thank you for your interesting reply. My father (of English ancestry) grew up near a lot of Slavs, so learned to speak Slovak with an accent so good he was believed to BE Slovak. His friends wept as they told him of the relatives back in the Old Country run by the USSR. I know about rancid nuts, and my mother's advice was to keep whole flours and grains in the freezer. I'll look into the fruits vs. vegetables idea. Thanks. Best regards.

Paul Frohlich's avatar

I came from what is now Czech Republic. Slovaks speak a little different. my only close friends I had there were from Slovakia but spoke Czech not Slovak. Lucky to meet them, they were down to Earth, poor family of 7 so there was no meat and they knew how to survive eat simple foods that came from the fields or forest. This how I learned that rich foods as meat are not necessary to eat well and be more healthy. My familyhad few small fields that was allowed the big farm of 500 acres was confiscated from my family they owned for over some 600 years. Even with the communists we were not poor, had lots of meat, even a car but was confiscated after me about 9 years old and father drove to a place and bought boxes of cheries to sell for profit that was illegal and no more car. But we had horses for the field work or delivery of fire wood or coal for customors that was allowed for some strange reason, and had pigs and cows chickens all all that. I could use the horses at the age of 9 for work, all by myself, could even harness them,, that would be here in Canada or U.S illegal child slave labour and social services would probably take me from my parents? America is not as free as Americans think of themselves. here I would be pumped with vaccines ( what that has to do with personal liberty?) and i would probaly be one of the 60% chronically sick American children ( Canada the same) I hate communism but as a child I had more freedom than most kids in America's. As a child I loved to go on the roof, one day a policeman walked by and told me to have rubber shoos so I do not slip. Here in Edmonton my kids were taken away for a few month by social services doing the same thing when I was out in Home Depot. they were about the same age as me than around 10 not babies. Backward culture here.My boys are Americans now, good for them to leave socialist Canada but my new 11 year old is still in Canada. this give you some idea what was life under the Czech communists. They were ass holes hated them but I was more happy than most kids today. They were not like N. Korea.

sean anderson's avatar

I have always been suspicious of vaccines. I remember when they rolled out the Swine Flu vaccine and the Ford administration wanted to make it mandatory. Why would a Republican want that??!?? Whenever the government begins to demand that you take a vaccine my bullshit antennae start waving around

Paul Frohlich's avatar

"Insctict is the highest intelligence" believe it was Nietzsche who said it At first I did not understand those words but than I got it. Instinct is Nature-God given to all creatures. Man did not created it. The Ultimate Reason for all existence did. As a child growing under the Czech communists, there was one vaccine, the only vaccine given to children I remember, I refused that, they did not force me. In California a child is forced to get over 72 doses of vaccines before the age of 18 or no school. This is today America. what a shame. A child natural instinct reject to be injected with someting. They are forced by indoctrinated adults and later children become the same, adults who do not question. Most even did not question the bio-weapon injected in to them. Natural child like curiosity, innstinct gone. Humans can't survive as a specie for much longer in this way.

T. Jeanne's avatar

Great story with profound points about the culture in the USA vs an admittedly communist rule.

Paul Frohlich's avatar

I fear for the future of America. What will happen after Trump? The democrat party is not just communist worse than the fascists who did not force experimental injections on their own people . The Czech communists as well did not force vaccines on us , even the one and only one. In America it is heading up to 90 school mandated shots for kids, so criminal. But its not just about vaccines, American people are not as free as the propaganda say so. About 50% of American boys are subjected to genital cutting at the age of being unable to consent resulting in 66% of American woman feeling pain in sex, something unheard of in intact Europe. The Founders were intact. Mark Levin never mention that. To hell with a religion that say God fucked up on the genitals. My 2 American sons live in the USA, I live in socialist Canada if nothing change here will have to take my family here and move to the U.S. My American boys want me to move but not to California where my oldest son is. That place is a disaster.

currer's avatar

Vaccines for children are not mandatory in the UK either.

In the UK many parents do not vaccinate their children, especially aware middle class Mums.

https://adc.bmj.com/content/99/Suppl_1/A193.1

"Childhood vaccination is a prophylactic intervention in well children. It is not compulsory in UK and does have rare but documented side effects. Although parents have a duty to act in the Best Interests of their children, their autonomy is respected if they choose not to vaccinate. Under ordinary circumstances, vaccination cannot be enforced if both parents are in agreement. However, courts are required to make welfare decisions if parents cannot agree. It has been argued that medical normative views favouring vaccination are seen to outweigh potential emotional and parenting factors in such cases. Parents opposed to vaccination tend to maximise the negative aspects of vaccination whilst minimising the effects of infectious diseases. In older children, an assessment of competence is needed to establish their understanding of the potential risks of both non-vaccination and vaccination. What is more difficult to assess is the emotional impact on children subjected to such intrusive parental animosity.

https://doi.org/10.1136/archdischild-2014-306237.445

The citizens of the US are unaware of the overwhelming power of the US military industrial complex which has long overridden and captured all their regulatory agencies. In Europe and the UK (until this recent covid-led totalitarian takeover,) we had reasonably good legal protection from predatory businesses. That protection is now being rapidly removed to allow a cartel of multinational financial interests to exploit without check.

Clare Goldsberry's avatar

As I've said for the past five years after doing much research (thanks to Open Source on all studies from 'peer-reviewed' publications) as well as the more than 150-year history of the eugenicists / population control freaks (elites and other power hungry billionaires) aka Neo-Malthusians who want to reduce the population of the world by at least 7 billion people. What better way than through vaccines (mentioned in the Kissinger Report and the Jaffe Memo) that maim, kill, and most importantly sterilize people from birth onward. The younger the better!

Trying to kill off the elderly (the useless eaters using too much government money in SS and Medicare) was the first attempt but that didn't work so well, so the next group was targeted -- the working age people who fell for mandates from their employers to keep their jobs and get a $100 gift card. That's what many thought their lives were worth -- $100.

Depopulation is a war against humans. Satanic for sure!

Paul Frohlich's avatar

As long as the globalists do not disarm you Americans, there is a hope. Just hold to your guns. And use them when the time comes. If America go no hope for all of humankind.

Clare Goldsberry's avatar

We definitely will keep our guns. We are a very well-armed citizenry and everyone in my family and most of my friends have guns. We will do the best we can. You are right -- if America goes, the whole world is lost. We will stand strong!

Brandon is not your bro's avatar

🎯control , money and depopulation. The ACOG still wants every pregnant woman to be given the death dart.

Bert Powers's avatar

Trump was involved in this from the begining. He has never apologized or admitted he was wrong.

shibumi's avatar

The only positive about Trump at the time is that he did talk about other treatments like HCQ and did not REQUIRE them, like Biden.

Bert Powers's avatar

I agree with you. Trump is like so many other politicians who are not humble enough to admit they were wrong, and in many cases, dead wrong.

Masaki Fujii's avatar

Trump was illiterate and didn't know that it would take five or ten years to complete a vaccine. On top of that, he was deceived by the warp (Operation Warp) of Fauci's henchman Peter Marks, due to his personality that wanted quick and flashy results.

But the worse guy is Biden. In early spring 2021, vaccinations did not halt despite the abnormal number of deaths compared to the past. Biden is most responsible for killing an estimated 2 million Americans. The number of deaths from side effects worldwide is estimated to be between 10 and 12 million. Since countries around the world follow the US, in reality, even if his subordinates do what they do, it's a responsibility because Biden left it to his subordinates.

Bert Powers's avatar

Biden basically doubled down on Trump's mistake.

Dee's avatar

If Trump admits he was wrong it may open the door to more lawsuits even if he isn't found guilty. Lawsuits take up time, money, energy.

Yes, Trump has done some positives during covid. He talked about hydroxycloroquine etc, and never mandated the shots. None of that changes the fact that he harmed many, many people and caused many people deaths with his warp speed death shots and through the CARE and PREP ACT. Sorry, but this is still evil. Yes.Trump knows what he did and is still doing. Doesn't matter if he has done some good sometimes.

If a serial killer stops to help an old lady cross a street before slaughtering a bunch of people, should we fore go justice cause he helped an old lady first? I think there is something more evil about killing your own people, that is killing Americans. Americans that may have voted for him. It is like killing your own family on purpose and expecting to go free because you bought them birthday presents.

RLM's avatar

That's unfair. He wanted to close travel from China - blocked by Dems. He wanted any cure, was enthusiastic about HCQ - blocked by Fauci. The medical establishment insisted on a vaccine rather than treatment, because vaccines are protected from lawsuits and are vastly more profitable. Trump wanted something topical, used bleach as an analogy, and was smeared; meanwhile two such research projects were already developing in Texas. Trump is no scientist -- he wanted to save lives and followed their demanded path.

Bert Powers's avatar

I hope he learned a lesson from all of this, it seems that he has. The way he handles the Epstein scandal will tell us more about him. Even if there is no soloution to the scandal, he should acknowledge that crimes were comitted, and people in high places were involved, looked the other way or were involved. Trying to shove something this awful and big down the memory hole leaves a bad taste in everyones mouth. He promised transparency, lets see it.

Carl Eric Scott's avatar

Yes. And the continued RFK stall suggests the worst that can be suggested from those facts. However, notice the strange episode earlier this year, when country star John Rich reported on a summer '24 conversation with Trump, in which he agreed he should stop trying to tout his Warp Speed "accomplishments": https://dissidentcon.substack.com/p/country-star-john-rich-unveils-evidence

Bert Powers's avatar

Thank you for posting this. It proves that Trump has some critical thinking skills. It also shows that those who surrounded him in DC when all of that was going on, were cowards, and not his friends. A friend will tell you the truth no matter the consequences.

Dee's avatar

Thank you Dr. Breggin and Ginger Breggin for being the people you are. Helps others to remain sane when the "crazy" is at least acknowledged by others.

With all due respect, Kennedy and Trump both know by now that these shots are killing and greatly harming people. Yeah it wouldn't hurt for more people to get vocal about that. This is genocide that is approved by our own government, thus democide.

The question is why would Kennedy and Trump allow genocide to happen? Why haven't they stood up for the people that vowed to support them?

I think that there are people behind Kennedy and Trump, thus I don' t think Kennedy and Trump are calling the shots. I think we got to look to people who attend the Bilderberg meetings etc. People are probably threatening them and their family. Kennedy and Trump and other government officials have to have the braveness of the soldiers that walked the beach on D-Day knowing odds weren't great they would make it to the other side to change the outcome. This is a war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOal7g5fqnU

T. Jeanne's avatar

Kennedy undoubtedly knew what he was getting in to - as far as the likelihood of personal threat to his several children, wife, etc.

I do also think that if DJT or Kennedy were to announce the factual reality that the shots are killing people or that it is a literal bioweapon - or if they just banned them without those explanations...the media and "Left" would go off the deep end with spin about them being "dictators" and blah blah blah...complete w fake social media profiles leading trends to politically or unlawfully upend said efforts/individuals. BECAUSE the MAJORITY of people got these injections and the MAJORITY of those DEEPLY believe they did so out of their superior personalities/intelligence/knowledge. They STILL do because they systematically refuse to look at evidence or common sense or to utilize their degrees in scrutinizing source scientific literature. They prob do that because of deep psychological blocks about having been so exceptionally wrong and ultimately incompetent - an idea that runs counter to their upper middle-class self-image.

So any politician that really is on our side has to wade forward within that sea of denial and the mass hysteria that can be whipped-up via the globalist owned and phenomenally designed propaganda machines. IMHO.

Dee's avatar

I think they could say we are temporarily banning the shots till we have further testing as there has been injuries reported. Then just never get it back on the shelves.

Kennedy and Trump are in high positions. They won't make everyone happy. There were risk with their jobs. Risk they were willing to take when they stepped in those positions. More than time to put on their big boy pants and do what they were voted in to do.

Carl Eric Scott's avatar

Dr. Moore argues that RFK could easily rescind the state of health emergency tomorrow, and that due to the liability changes, the companies themselves would take the experimental products from the shelves. I don't see how he's wrong. 23:40 https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/dr-kirk-moore-speaks-out-after-doj

Baldmichael's avatar

Wholeheartly agree. I have tried to reason with a few but they insist on being poisoned.

RLM's avatar

Albert Bourla, head of Pfizer, was interviewed on Fox's Klaman Report. He said they were watching Kennedy (in a menacing tone of voice) and got full sympathy from Liz Klaman, daughter of a physician and obviously very concerned that investments in pharmaceuticals remain strong. So the drug industry alone is constantly threatening, cajoling, running public campaigns to instill fear and need. If they can force covid 'vaccines' on the world that totaled >5M 'adverse events' on WHO's drug database in 2021-2, they are as insidious as but more profitable than any method of biological warfare.

Barbara Charis's avatar

Thanks for your insight into Dr. Kirk Moore's case. Also, it is disappointing that RFK, Jr. has permitted the CV-19 mRNA vax to continue in any manner. It has injured and destroyed people's lives worldwide. Every day there are more horror stories connected to it...and this destructive vax is still being promoted.

T. Jeanne's avatar

People, and their medical advisors, have to take responsibility for themselves and their own choices. Sec Kennedy is not an un-elected dictator.

Dee's avatar

No it isn't that clear cut. Doctor's have a responsibility to their patients. At this point doctors have no excuse to give an obvious harmful shots to children knowing the risk far outweigh the non existing benefits.

New parents can't be an expert in everything. I am sure many do their best but will indeed look to their elders/experts for advice.

In any society we eventually have to trust one another. Every time you go across a bridge you trust that the bridge engineers did a good job building it. You trust others to properly inspect it over the years. If a bridge falls down while people are crossing it, then would you always blame the people crossing it, saying they should have known better than to cross a bridge?

Marianne's avatar

Thank you! People are still lining up to get these toxic jabs and they are dying! I was glad to watch Senator Ron Johnson’s hearing this week with parents whose children were severely damaged by vaccines. Children’s Health Defense did a great job of exposing a lot of information like the fact that pediatricians are given lots of money to give vaccines and that many who were harmed cannot get help from the government. Information is getting out but we have a long battle in front of us due to the dark forces at work. Luckily I see many posts on FB these days that were not there a few years ago. Onward and upward!

T. Jeanne's avatar

Yes. Godbless and Godspeed.

Paul Frohlich's avatar

Ginger is smart, she got it right from the start, they desperatelly trying hard to hide the dangers of that shot. And yes it is intentional,Trump do not want to reduce the number of people but there are major players and they want to reduce population. Eugenists existed long time ago, today they do not admit it except simple mind Bill Gates. Trump so naive, being played.

Clyde's avatar

I know that I had filed for a "Motion of Discovery" against the State of Utah which was summarily denied. Satanic eugenicist making bureaucratic "Back Room Deals" on other peoples lives by the Militant police forces coupled with the endless rhetorical lawfare that accompanies their premeditated invasions into other peoples lives. Activist Judges stating that because you resisted their tyranny, you've waived your rights and make that a matter of "The Official Record". They didn't like the idea that I had connected their "Child Abuse" charge along with their trumped up charges to the crime of genocide/democide (all six criteria are listed in 18 U.S.C. 1091). It begins with bureaucratic conspiracies, deprivations (under "Color of Law) and annihilation of those undesirables.

John Roberts's avatar

Are there any ethical or moral people running governments directly or indirectly anywhere in the world ???

The evidence seems to suggest the answer is NO !!!

Crixcyon's avatar

Our government always protecting its backside as its crusade of depopulation continues. Another great interview.

Older and Wiser's avatar

This is a critically important set of posts that must be read by all good people. Thank you Dr. Breggin for all that you have done, have endured and are still doing today. Decades ago Dr. Breggin explained what happened to my marriage and family as a result of Prozac - a different kind of "injection" since the SSRI/SNRi classes of drugs are documented to "cause the patient to have an unusual reliance on figures of authority." See the evil system. Drugs that turn people into "sheeple" and then they follow directions like "Get Vaccinated". Dr. Breggin can you do a post on this?

Skupe's avatar

All you really needed to take was a mega dose of daily niacin, simple B3. Read Niacin The Real Story and/or doctoryourself.com.

Older and Wiser's avatar

Skupe, thanks for the reply but my problem was my wife was on Prozac which changed her emotional "reality" toward narcissism, grandiosity, poor judgment, etc. etc. I do not believe Niacin would have helped her (negate the effects of Prozac) but I will read "Niacin The Real Story". Thanks.

T. Jeanne's avatar

Prolly not, just a single factor. But good to be open!

T. Jeanne's avatar

Yeah - so much for millions of dollars of tax-payer funded bioweapons research!!

Marianne's avatar

Just go back and view the recent ACIP meeting to hear all the lies the government is still spouting about the Covid jabs and others. It was very clear what is still happening in this country!

Masaki Fujii's avatar

In a multi-person bureaucratic organization, the fifth row is often inside.

Since Top cannot grasp everyone, it would be impossible to execute even the Top commands 100%.

It is said that the HHS, CDC, and FDA still have pharmaceutical minions or parent waves.

However, Malone says, "ACIP only expresses its opinions and has no right to approve or veto."

https://www.malone.news/p/moderna-spikevax-fda-post-mortem?publication_id=583200

Kevin Taylor's avatar

"They were hired to lie." Sasha drops a gem every time.

Kaylene Emery's avatar

I have re found you via Sasha . Blessings and appreciation from Sydney Australia.

Kaylene Emery's avatar

Dear Peter and Ginger , I’ve found you again !

slaicker1's avatar

It is beyond time to make our government fear We The People. Not the other way around. I for one will never ever get jabbed. My job will never mandate it as everyone works from home & should I be let go as a result, so be it. I don’t care, I’m still never getting jabbed & if EVERYone followed suit, they can’t hurt any of us putting We The People in power, not them. Exactly how our forefathers planned it!

T. Jeanne's avatar

1000%

That is why constantly excusing all the medical personnel that UTTERLY FAILED to uphold any professional or medical ethics is absolute BS.

If even a small percentage of them had even a modicum of adnexa, and actually chose to do the correct moral thing - this would've all come to a screeeching halt long ago. And they wouldn't have to now be going through Emmy-award acting at how "baffled" they are at all the emerging morbidity and death that they "can't explain."

Masaki Fujii's avatar

that's right. Each person should study the dangers of mRNA and the dangers of native vaccines.

I read the BNT162b2 early clinical trial document and said, "What is this?" "It has only 0.716% infection prevention effect."

Clinical trial documents are always available somewhere in the Files of the FDA or the authorized authorities in various countries.

Anyone can view it without having to spare a little effort.

You can save your own and your family's lives by reducing the number of days you watch baseball on TV by one day.

Charles  Fortin's avatar

This is a complicated situation. I don’t see how government can mandate either way.

Let choices be made and data collected.