I know those guys that's their way for coping with the "terror of the situation" we are all facing. You may find some grounds with Desmet in both sincerely checking about the global enslavement situation, and how his tribe may be subjected, in the end, to something similar too. They are on the same boat than you at such level. You may wa…
I know those guys that's their way for coping with the "terror of the situation" we are all facing. You may find some grounds with Desmet in both sincerely checking about the global enslavement situation, and how his tribe may be subjected, in the end, to something similar too. They are on the same boat than you at such level. You may want to both stick to your tribes, even if fundamentally antagonistic but at least there may be some common goal in that sense. It's not about settling your house next to his. I understand you are trying to express things with the above post, in a huge sincerity. He may not hear it.
In any case regarding the enslavement topic, I'd say that any tribe should benefit from "basic independance" and "basic freedom", "basic free will", before any further considerations. We may notice some tribes who are never free, not free, and it would be easy to point the finger at them. Such tribe is not in some learning process, has zero chance to positively grow and prove anything. They are easily "bad people" but whole point is the people owning them for negative purposes. Those are the first to be dismissed.
Such enslaved tribes ought to find their true meaning out there, to understand what their true template and road is. Otherwise, they will believe what their "masters" tell them, as their role in this life. They would discover that their actual road is something completely different. The 360° may be hard to do, but coming in contact with one's own true nature and purpose would at least provide some "lift".
Truly embrassing your own purpose out there would make you automatically respected by God. Somehow, you may claim for your "place". But overall it's not about claiming for a room but "being" yourself. Positive consequences are so that one may prefer to check around, after it happens. Goal is to "be", first, sincerely. "Wanting for a part of the cake" will not get you there. This is something which would happen automatically once you become indispensable to God.
Whatever Desmet's tribe is, what he says, I hear you. Those guys have a different approach to the evil out there. This is why you may feel that they are condescendents, or else. After all, it may just be the "barrier of the tribes" so it may be good preserving it. I feel it's positive you guys even have a room for talking. How come such thing ever happened :) It may work for you to express him your real pains, sufferings and griefs, I mean how you experience it and to ask him how he experiences it. You would certainly see things differently. Eh! This is because he's from another tribe, a different nature, so his system is different than yours. Need to find a way for understanding each others, it would be as if you were speaking a different language, somwhow.
It may be frustrating to not get echo because you seem sincere. I suppose, stay patient and look for constructive exchanges as you do. I noticed how you have done that with the mention of the Malone 25 millions stuffs. Seems Desmet's tribe does not react much to suffering, or differently. May be useful to check how he sees it, etc. I suppose they dismiss suffering as a principle and that they have a way to deal with it. Some tribe spec. We, taking it in the face, are 100% of the time "bottle at the sea". Even if he's at some other vantage point and even lecturing you, do as you can and you surely have your own priorities.
I know those guys that's their way for coping with the "terror of the situation" we are all facing. You may find some grounds with Desmet in both sincerely checking about the global enslavement situation, and how his tribe may be subjected, in the end, to something similar too. They are on the same boat than you at such level. You may want to both stick to your tribes, even if fundamentally antagonistic but at least there may be some common goal in that sense. It's not about settling your house next to his. I understand you are trying to express things with the above post, in a huge sincerity. He may not hear it.
In any case regarding the enslavement topic, I'd say that any tribe should benefit from "basic independance" and "basic freedom", "basic free will", before any further considerations. We may notice some tribes who are never free, not free, and it would be easy to point the finger at them. Such tribe is not in some learning process, has zero chance to positively grow and prove anything. They are easily "bad people" but whole point is the people owning them for negative purposes. Those are the first to be dismissed.
Such enslaved tribes ought to find their true meaning out there, to understand what their true template and road is. Otherwise, they will believe what their "masters" tell them, as their role in this life. They would discover that their actual road is something completely different. The 360° may be hard to do, but coming in contact with one's own true nature and purpose would at least provide some "lift".
Truly embrassing your own purpose out there would make you automatically respected by God. Somehow, you may claim for your "place". But overall it's not about claiming for a room but "being" yourself. Positive consequences are so that one may prefer to check around, after it happens. Goal is to "be", first, sincerely. "Wanting for a part of the cake" will not get you there. This is something which would happen automatically once you become indispensable to God.
Whatever Desmet's tribe is, what he says, I hear you. Those guys have a different approach to the evil out there. This is why you may feel that they are condescendents, or else. After all, it may just be the "barrier of the tribes" so it may be good preserving it. I feel it's positive you guys even have a room for talking. How come such thing ever happened :) It may work for you to express him your real pains, sufferings and griefs, I mean how you experience it and to ask him how he experiences it. You would certainly see things differently. Eh! This is because he's from another tribe, a different nature, so his system is different than yours. Need to find a way for understanding each others, it would be as if you were speaking a different language, somwhow.
It may be frustrating to not get echo because you seem sincere. I suppose, stay patient and look for constructive exchanges as you do. I noticed how you have done that with the mention of the Malone 25 millions stuffs. Seems Desmet's tribe does not react much to suffering, or differently. May be useful to check how he sees it, etc. I suppose they dismiss suffering as a principle and that they have a way to deal with it. Some tribe spec. We, taking it in the face, are 100% of the time "bottle at the sea". Even if he's at some other vantage point and even lecturing you, do as you can and you surely have your own priorities.
Good luck! Greetings!