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Jun 24, 2023Liked by Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin

I loved your article. Dr. Malone's lawsuit sadly exposes him as a narcissist who it seems first on his plate is ensuring nobody is allowed to say anything negative about him or counter any of his claims. How ironic that he is supposedly a freedom champion and writes a substack about the suppression of information. He has brought defamation of character on himself with his infantile response to criticism. Men with honor do not behave this way.

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Malone seems to be controlled opposition and his suit against The Breggins and Dr. Jane Ruby is atrocious, an age-old divide and conquer stratagem that benefits the wicked upper crust criminals and their total slavery schemes!

We the People are facing HORRIFYING TECHNOCRATIC PSYCHOPATHY TO DESTROY HUMANITY AND ALL NATURAL LIFE!

Kudos to Diana West, The Breggins and Dr. Jane Ruby for their heroic efforts and success in the struggle. We the People must always be aware of the existential threats lurking behind this fight!

All manner of lies and propaganda spew forth from the upper echelons in governments worldwide who are completely intertwined with the global criminal ruling class that wants to commit the worst atrocities imaginable and suffer no consequences. And their corruption slithers down the chain of command creating petty tyrants everywhere.

Supporting this excellent post with a statement and useful links. RejectDigitalEnslavement.com

It was NEVER about health! The Powers That Should Not Be were ALWAYS about they want you DEAD or a SLAVE! This is a painful truth to accept but we the people must wake up and fight back!

We must never lose sight of the larger picture of the vile malignance we are fighting against.

CLIMATE CHANGE IS AN EVEN WORSE FRAUD THAN THE PLANSCAMDEMIC! SO-CALLED GREEN TECH IS A GIGANTIC SCAM! MINING AND MANUFACTURING 'GREEN' PRODUCTS NEEDS COAL, GAS AND OIL AND MINING RARE MINERALS IS MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY TOXIC AND DESTRUCTIVE THAN LEGACY PRODUCTS. SCREW YOUR DAMNED AGENDA!

There is an insidious global ruling class plot to enslave all life on earth behind all the madness and suffering inflicted on We the People.

How to fight back against this TOTAL SLAVERY!

RESIST! DO NOT COMPLY! DITCH THE DAMNED 'SMART' PHONES AND THE DAMNED QR CODES AND GO BACK TO LANDLINES OR FLIP PHONES AND USE CASH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! INSIST ON CASH! CBDC IS TOTAL SLAVERY!

Other than getting rid of nuclear weapons which I support 100% the rest of the anti-nuclear peace movement and CLIMATE CRISIS propaganda is parroting UN utter GARBAGE, a complete surrender to the ENSLAVEMENT AGENDA by the diabolical despots of Davos - ruling class criminals who lust for total power and control and all of whom should be tried and jailed for life and their malign organizations dismantled: the UN, the WEF, the IMF, the WHO, the BIS, NATO, Blackrock, Vanguard, The Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, The Bilderbergers, the CFR et al.

There is an evil predator globalist technocratic elite agenda of eugenics/depopulation/genocide using bioweapon poison jabs, war, geoengineering, EMF radiation, starvation and economic collapse - THE GREAT RESET/AGENDA 2030/4TH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION to get rid of billions of 'useless eaters' and to use nano tech to turn the survivors into ROBOTIZED COMPLIANT SLAVES! WAKE UP AND RESIST! DO NOT COMPLY! These are psychopath megalomaniacs who want to play god by turning all life into digitized metaverse mechanistic synthetic biology to be manipulated by their AI algorithms. A more demonic sickening idea is nearly impossible to imagine!

APPALLED AND HORRIFIED AT INSANE TYRANNICAL PROTOCOLS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALTH AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH TOTALITARIAN CONTROL! REVERSE THIS NOW!

MAKE THE WORLD AND AMERICA 2019 (comparatively speaking), AND FREE AGAIN!

NO, I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE MORONIC SCARIANT SHMARIANT MONKEYSHINES! WAKE UP ALREADY!

TOTALLY CONDEMN BIDEN AND ALL OTHER POLS WHO HAVE NO POWER TO LAWLESSLY ACT LIKE AN EMPEROR OR DICTATOR AND DECREE JAB CROW 'SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS' FASCIST SEGREGATION/DISCRIMINATION/APARTHEID VIOLATIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION, THE NUREMBERG CODES AND EVERY CIVIL RIGHT IMAGINABLE.

NO GREEN NEW DEALS OR BUILD BACK BETTER FROM THE CRIMINAL TECHNOCRAT TYRANTS KLAUS SCHWAB AND HIS CRONIES FROM THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM.

STOP THE TERRIBLE TYRANNY OF THE TECHNOCRATS GLOBAL AGENDA OF TOTAL SURVEILLANCE AND CONTROL USING THE VIRUS AS EXCUSE AND PROPAGANDA TOOL!

NO MUZZLING STIFLING MASK MANDATES! NO FORCED VACCINES! END TORTUROUS DEVASTATING LOCK DOWNS NOW! I WANT MY LIFE BACK.

https://virustruth.net

https://wrenchinthegears.com

https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com

https://pandemicfacts.info

https://wearehumanwearefree.org/7-days-campaign/

https://sonsoflibertymedia.com/covid-19-roadmap-12-step-plan-to-create-a-totalitarian-new-world-order-were-on-number-8-headed-towards-number-9/

https://questioningcovid.com

https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1581-james-corbett-breaks-down-the-great-reset/

http://www.stopcp.com/GlobalResetPSYOP/GlobalResetPSYOPMindMap.html

https://everydayconcerned.net/2020/09/04/breaking-major-investigative-report-by-association-of-french-reserve-army-officers-finds-covid-19-pandemic-to-have-a-hidden-agenda-for-global-totalitarianism-nanotech-chipping-of-all-5g-irradia/

Pam Popper: https://makeamericansfreeagain.com

Del Bigtree: https://www.brighteon.com/channels/highwire

https://www.technocracy.news

Naomi Wolf: https://dailyclout.io

www.nojabforme.info

https://www.globalresearch.ca/we-must-awaken-from-corona-coma-reject-great-reset-robotic-technocracy-assert-common-humanity/5745213

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Good links. Thanks! All who do not plan on accepting a "Unique Global Identifier" do need to brainstorm on how to live in a society where everything from job applications to filing taxes and paying bills will be done solely online. And you are not allowed to log on without you digital ID.

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Find an offline "tribe." Prepare to barter and do without when CBDC is instituted.

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The lawsuit? His very own Substack exposes him as a narcissist!

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Jun 24, 2023Liked by Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin

I'm getting tired of other substack authors telling me that I can't dislike Malone for his lawsuit. I seriously wonder how anyone can cast his actions in a good light. Those sort of defamation lawsuits are just one person with more money using their money to bully someone with less money into being quiet.

The actual content of what anyone said in such a circumstance is irrelevant. Free and open society dies when the wealth to hire lawyers determines who is allowed to speak.

The Malone 'brand' must be awfully important somehow to someone for such action to be taken with such persistence.

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Jun 24, 2023Liked by Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin

Praying for God's protection and vindication for you guys!! This is and has always been a spiritual battle!! The Bible tells us in Ephesians 6 that "we wrestle not against flesh and blood.. " We must fight these battles through prayer and with the Word of God!! 1 John 4:4

New King James Version

"You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world."

God bless you guys and know God is with you!! 🙏❤️

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Jun 24, 2023Liked by Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin

Diana is always brilliant and never more so than in this illuminating article. I included the quotes of Malone's twitter on some other comment threads to demonstrate that he is, I believe, unraveling. The teddy-bear mask is slipping and showing how mean and immature he really is.

But what was immensely valuable was Diana's link to your 26-pp Motion to Dismiss. I can't recall reading anything with more clarity and patience, in pointing out the discrepancies and just sloppy accusations. I already did an episode on https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/who-is-robert-malones-attorney? showing him to have filed other frivolous suits, dismissed and ridiculed by the press. The Breggins' attorney could not be a greater contrast. The application of relevant case law and systematic, thorough argumentation of counterpoints to this nonsense was masterful. There's no honest judge I can imagine who would see this as something that should go to court.

I've also written about Malone's recent, whiny justification of the suit: https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/malones-million-dollar-pity-party and why the question of whether he's controlled opposition matters: https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/malone-and-slaughterhouse-four.

I've heard that in a recent interview, Malone said that Kennedy is now publicly distancing himself. I think it's likely, with my 14 episodes on Malone, that I fall into "the quirky nature of various clauses in defamation law" because I don't monetize. So that just leaves me as a 'cyberstalker' or a 'surrogate.' I wish someone would explain to him that cyberstalkers want to get close to their idols, and I would like to distance myself as far from him as possible. But I'd proudly claim to be the Breggins' surrogate, except they don't need anyone to speak more eloquently and with more integrity than they do themselves.

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Jun 24, 2023Liked by Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin

Intelligent, eloquent comment, Tereza!!! :)

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Mike Adams sucks. He's a prima donna like Malone. A few years ago he blocked me for asking a question, can't remember exactly what about, I think it had to do with germ theory. Most of what he says is probably true but I can no longer stand to listen to his high piping little voice on infowars.

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Jun 25, 2023·edited Jun 25, 2023

Exactly. Like any skilled propagandist, mike mixes truth with lies to generate fear and sell his prepper products. He claims there are 11 types of aliens working w/the US government, 10 hostile and 1 friendly. Do hostile aliens need the government?

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OMG thank you, I don't listen to him enough to know that's what he's selling! Right, I didn't put it together regarding him, the fact that propaganda mixes truth with lies. Isn't the deep state promoting aliens now, I think it's called operation blue beam?

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Jun 25, 2023Liked by Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin

I don't know. I've avoided all the alien whistleblower claims etc. Definitely psy-op distractions.

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He keeps switching his narratives. I got tired of it.

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Jun 24, 2023Liked by Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin

Just before reading this post, I watched the CHD TV interview of Celia Farber by Brian Hooker. She wrote Serious Adverse Events -An Uncensored History of AIDS. Brian interviewed her because of the uncanny similarities between the AIDS saga and what has, and is, happening with Covid. She recounted the devastating attacks on herself and other journalists who were questioning the official narrative and treatments. They were attacked by other journalists, by AIDS activists, and the pharma/medical community, they were ghosted, blacklisted and threatened, not sure they were ever actually sued. And we should remember the specific emphasis given during the tabletop exercises on control of messaging, assigning much of this to major media surveillance. It is clear there is a well coordinated plan of attack for any deviance from the official tale, even to those who raise objections to misrepresentations. After all, there are many billions on the line.

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Censorship/propaganda are the main tools being used against us, to gain our assent to The Great Narrative. That narrative can shift and pivot, as needed, in response to what the people "need to hear." This narrative can proceed in a point/counterpoint fashion: people catching on to what happened but the real (counter) point is that it was due to our own mechanistic thinking (Desmet and Malone.) Or, the medical freedom movement is gaining ground so now they might have to pivot to climate catastrophe using the narrative that the left has pretty much owned for themselves and whose "necessary" measure they'll be the enforcers of.

Malone seduces his readers with tales of his home life, his farm, his animals, the horses he had to put down, tragedy with his animals, etc.: he's just like you and me! Only he doesn't like it at all if people question his narrative.

I've come to believe that censorship/propaganda-- two sides of the same coin for controlling what people think-- is the main danger and the real road to totalitarianism, and the opposite of free speech and thought and honest debate. So when Desmet/Malone team up to deny the central role of deliberate censorship and propaganda in totalitarian regimes-- that denial is central to Desmet's book-- and the danger we're facing today, that's says a lot about who they're working for, intentionally or unintentionally.

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Seduction and denial of another's reality? That's narcissistic love-bombing and gaslighting in a nutshell right there!

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Jun 24, 2023Liked by Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin

Malone’s substack articles are clearly written and today he published a RN’s factual account of what transpired in the hospital work place. It appears he is anti injection, but is there a hidden motive that we don’t understand? Breggins certainly do not deserve this and they have drilled down to the root motivation of the Covid con. Has Malone been directed to do this or else by the deep state?

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Jun 24, 2023Liked by Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin

Hi, Thomas. When I was researching my response to Malone's justification of the suit, I noticed your comment on his thread and it surprised me. I know we've commented on the same Substacks over the last three years. When he first posted the suit in Just the Facts, I remember there were many of us who questioned it. Now I couldn't find a single commenter who was critical. There seems to be a surge in religious comments--one even compared him to Jesus and another to Job!

What I've noticed is that Malone supports and publishes other people, or takes their ideas without attribution (as Mathew Crawford says he did with his.) By using his million-dollar platform to promote other people, he makes them beholden to him and also reflects our own words back to us. His book is essays by others, who then need to defend him to not seem duped. I think that's how he's become a perceived leader of a movement that his history and current statements contradict. It's a technique that I'm sure is an official part of the playbook.

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Good observation. I believe that his sub stacks have been objective and educational, and do not disparage anyone else. Since they have been of this tone, I believe he has gathered great support. I am at a loss for understanding the lawsuit since I believe the Breggins have done yeoman work in detailing facts on this massive con job!

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Thomas, I'm not sure how you can say they don't disparage anyone else. When the Breggins first disagreed with Desmet's theory, they gave Malone the benefit of the doubt: "We hope Malone is unaware of and will now disavow Desmet’s psychiatric labeling and undermining of researchers and writers who are investigating globally organized assaults on humanity, and the accusation that we cause mass psychoses. This is unjust to the researchers and writers and can only protect those behind the increasing power of the global totalitarian institutions."

In response, Malone wrote, "“Unlike those who have been “black pilled” and who conclude overwhelming grand conspiracies as the explanation for everything having to do with the COVIDcrisis, I try to constrain my interpretations by the boundaries of the verifiable.” He then outlines four “psychological and political science theories which I believe can help make sense out of the otherwise confusing and non-sensical aspects of the COVIDcrisis”: mass formation psychosis/ nudge technology; groupthink in the UN, WHO, WEF; narcissistic personality disorder and political ponerology; conformity bias and incompetence : https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/in-defense-of-the-breggins-part-one

Nowhere does he blame the perpetrators! When I published my first episode analyzing the lawsuit, he invoked the "asshole rule" to block me and refund my subscription. Calling me an asshole is not disparaging anyone else?

Although trans-bashing is trendy on the right, I find ridicule of anyone to be offensive, including his appearance in the Hi-Rez video and proud use of the term "I am not one to tuck!" used as "an intentional double-entendre" to describe his manliness in going through with the lawsuit on the Breggins.

In the article that Diana references, as she says, he compares his detractors to pathological killers! They are not "civilized, mentally healthy people" but motivated by envy, jealousy and greed, and some "odd, perverse obsession." There in VA, "We call them assholes."

His tweet in response to Kristen is extremely insulting. His description of the Breggins and Jane Ruby in his filing is so disparaging as to be laughable--if it did not have the malicious $25M intent.

I really wonder how his readers can hear this belittling tone and still support him.

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I missed in the past some of what you stated about Malone being disparging. I don't agree this was mass phycosis self induced per Desmit. It was preplanned mass propaganda fine tuned by DARPA/CIA in my opinion. The dichotomy with Malone is almost everything I have read from the past 12 months is positive and educational and for that reason is resonanting with his readers. Therfore he has embraced a huge following. Is he controlled oposition? Based on what he said about you, Breggins and the lawsuit and the thrid party Judy? , I tend to think there is a hidden motivation. What he is not pursuing is any discussion or view point on the many bad actors who were key players in the Covid con. His he being guided in how to develop his personna to be a main voice in this RNA world? I do know billions and billions are being invested to keep the RNA injection scenario moving forward. The CDC three day conference that just concluded indicates this. also, as reported by Meryl.

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I agree with you, Thomas. His level down-to-earth approach and educational content was why I was subbed to him. And he had excellent readers, who added much to the comment threads. I'd say it was my primary hub for conversation.

We also agree that this was propaganda engineered by DARPA/ CIA. Certainly the CIA knew that the harms of the 'vaccine' would come out at some point, and someone would need to be in a position to control that narrative.

It's not just mRNA in Malone's past but the Anthrax vaccine tested on kids, some curious links to e-cigs just before the mysterious 2019 vaping 'flu', and the discrediting of HCQ at a time when he had $21M to show it worked and it was the standard of care--and so successful that NYC had too few hospitalized patients in June 2020. So his background fits.

What is his narrative now? In the following episode I analyze his interview with Aubrey Marcus where he says his 'working hypothesis is that there's nothing nefarious going on' and that adverse events were from providers storing the vaccine at the wrong temp. That's what I'd want said if I wanted to keep the mRNA depopulation agenda going: https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/phony-maloney-and-wikispooks.

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"I'd say it was my primary hub for conversation."

Is it a hub? Or is it a honeypot?

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What was his definitive role in the Antrax episode. Meryl mentioned that because of the scare, our government bought sufficient antidote for the whole US population. Since they reported it was lab developed anthrax in the scare, it was an inside job. Looking back, it appears to have been a test run of how to handle biowarfare events. Based on his governm,ent involvment, I would say he is walking a tight rope. The question is why?

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Something felt "off" about the whole "mass psychosis" theory; I suspect that Desmet is another fame-seeker. Plus... as the Breggins have spoken about, if you're in what the government terms a group suffering from "mass formation psychosis," they could indeed throw you in a mental hospital, because "psychosis" is a diagnosis. BTW... Malone is the one who added the term psychosis. Which could indeed work in favor of the regime, if needed.

Funny how that turned out.

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I notice Desmet blames the Covid nonsense on some spontaneously occurring mass hysteria rather than a calculated psy opp. by schemers If people felt lonely and without purpose why would they find friendship and meaning by staying alone and idle? Even assuming mass formation is real this staying "together apart" for years would not be naturally attractive.

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How his readers can hear this belittling tone and still support him. I'm not a shrink, but I think that might come under the Flying Monkeys theory, having lived through that kind of thing.

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An official part of the playbook. That's interesting, the cia playbook?

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Well, all of that has to be inferred, of course. But they would be fools not to. If we assume the injuries and deaths are intentional, which I would, you don't want to give credibility to those who predicted it. You need a 'limited hangout' who identifies just enough of the truth, and who gathers everyone else speaking the truth under his wings.

I think you already read my one on the slaughterhouse but this is my analogy:

Controlled opposition is a sheepdog sent to round up the strays and herd them through a route called ‘freedom’ back to the slaughterhouse. To determine whether someone is such a sheepdog, here are the questions to ask:

who has fed the sheepdog? has it bit that hand, or only licked it?

does it seem proud of its former job for the slaughterhouse?

does it brag about some sheepherding exploits and hide others?

does it condemn rival slaughterhouses but not the industry?

does it howl a little too loudly about its lonesome, renegade life?

do the signposts change but the destination stay the same?

So the slaughterhouse is the first reason it matters where Malone is leading us.

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I knew he was bullshit from the beginning.

How?

In One of his first interviews with the last American vagabond, he stated that the jabs should be ok for pregnant women before the third trimester. Dr Malone, you know they don't test them on pregnant women (except your Brazil shots which lead to "zika" being blamed for encephalopathy).

He also said he had long COVID and was told to get the shot to help cure it. On what basis? There was and still is no proof of this. Plus, a fkin vaccinologist knows that vaccines after infection are asking for trouble. He's so full of crap and his story is nonsense

As usual, Ryan, the interviewer, didn't really see the contractions... He thought it was divisive. Haha... Nowadays he sees Malone is full of crap. Some people are very slow to recognize pathological behavior.

Shortly after that interview, he was on Allison Morrow show and they went through viewer questions. One such question was about the immunity of pharma since the 1986 act (but the EUA had it under prep act). He played dumb. Really jagoff?

He's so full of crap. The way he responds to questions is condescending too, it's almost like he's another clone of Peter Hotez, but with a different mission.

It's ok though, they expected him to steer the challenge to vaccines but the movement steered him, lol.

🐍 <--- Dr Malone

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"t's ok though, they expected him to steer the challenge to vaccines but the movement steered him, lol."

hee hee hee!

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Dear Breggins, I think Malone is MK Ultra. This lawsuit is simply a design to kill you...if possible. "Yeah, go after the octogenarians, stress kills, lawsuits are one of the biggest stressors, it might work! If not, then surely the lawsuit will make their life miserable, maybe miserable enough to stop raising the alarm about us". Dear Breggins, your past work and status has made you a high level target. But of neccessity, FRET NOT! Toss it into the Lord's lap. Sit back, relax, get a few massages, eat well, enjoy friends. "Vengeance is mine." saith the Lord. " I will repay."

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Jun 25, 2023Liked by Dr. Peter and Ginger Breggin

Shared, 50 + medical Professionals

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Jun 24, 2023·edited Jun 24, 2023

Diana West's article is great. Malone says he's having something taken away from him. Stolen. I think he means his subscribers are jumping ship, like I did. His credibility is a joke. However, i just want to say, it was his own words that made me look up the Breggins and Ruby. I didn't know about them before. His own words on his own stack was so over the top in paranoia, finger pointing, projection and whining that he just came across as a complete phony, like a tv preacher.

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Yep. I think he was the first Substack I ever paid to subscribe to. I unsubscribed quite a few months ago.

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"These are public commentators debating the onset of totalitarianism in our time." Absolutely right. That's the fundamental free speech point. The Free World is at stake in all this. Yet the pompous Malone sideshow is a narcissistic inflated ego-centric distraction, a warped pseudo-ethical red herring amongst the weedy undergrowth. It's all about him, his career and his hurt ego - whilst the Free World is on fire from rampant tyranny. The fact that he seeks to assist treacherous totalitarianism by 'chilling' vibrant honest dissent should inspire us all to boldly speak up LOUDER - and stick a pin in his over-inflated over-rated balloon.

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And it looks like Malone ( I can't anymore give him the respect to call him Dr. ) is like most other doctors and big-pharma who put money before people. If Malone was a sovereign man, he'd know better.

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I agree 100% with Beth and others' opinions on this. Plus, imagine if Malone turned out to be sort of a double-agent. Maybe if he wins his suit, it will be away for government/injustice system to delete the 1st amendment using Malone's case as the reason for complete totalitarianism. Maybe Malone KNOWS this and is in cahoots with Government? But, if he loses? He MUST be ordered to pay the Breggins and Dr. Ruby $12.5 million each. Seems that hitting the rich wherre it hurts most isn't the groin but the wallet that may rest in pockets against it. Malone, you ought to be ashamed of yourself for your leftist childish behavior. YOU are responsible for the mRNA and YOU should be the one to be sued and forced to pay out. YOU - NOBODY ELSE - You Alone have ruined YOUR OWN reputation and want others to pay for it? lol...what a fool you are and what fools we were to believe you were on our side. Funny how money shows the real person everytime. Only this time it's dangerous, NOT funny.

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See my comment on the work of Erik Erikson; Malone and his "collaborators" or like-minded enablers are masters when it comes to behavior they "ought to be ashamed of" or "leftist childish behavior." What is common among all of them is their lack of moral conscience; shame leads to guilt and guilt safeguards human conscience but any genuine guilt is always denied for there can NEVER be any admission of responsibility; they take no blame but can only ascribe blame to others; their agenda and goal is that ANY MEANS or strategy can be used to justify the end results and they long ago dispensed with such bothersome realities as shame and moral intelligence governing human action.

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EXACTLY!!! Excellent comment, John.

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Interesting point about the death of grown-ups and the "absence of bona fide adults"; reminds me of the work of psychologist, Erik Erikson, and his description of our species as "unfinished" human beings; he goes on to say that "man's inborn instincts are drive fragments to be assembled....during a prolonged childhood." In other words the task of becoming a fully functional and "healthy" human is a life-long work and, for most of us, never ends; while these patterns of completion are what makes us uniquely human, such as freedom and the ability to choose, they can also be our downfall in delaying the development of a moral conscience; in this regard it is vitally important to develop a sense of healthy shame as the root or basis for moral intelligence; to me, what Malone and his followers and other actors in the Covid "swamp" display ,aside from their ready-made cleverness, is precisely a severe lack of moral consciousness because they have failed to develop the innate affect system of healthy shame; in fact, this lack is a key component and characterizes so much of the psychopathic behaviour of the nefarious actors who surround us and continue to control us. As Mark Twain once observed: " Man is the only animal who blushes or needs to..."

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A lot of truth to this! Our down fall is the massive amount of disinformation that is cluttering our brain!

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"In other words the task of becoming a fully functional and "healthy" human is a life-long work"

Lifelong? Is that what Erikson really means by "prolonged?" I find that hard to believe.

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Erikson: "The drives man is born with are not instincts...unlike animals they do not carry in themselves the patterns of completion...as an animal, man is nothing....man's inborn instincts are drive fragments to be assembled...during a prolonged childhood." Humans are human because they are not governed by instinctual determinism....the patterns of completion that animals possess; as part of our human nature we have freedom and the ability to choose and that entails what is often a long process of maturation and, for many of us, a life-long effort ; of course there are hereditary and environmental influences and never-ending societal pressures and these have the potential to either hinder or assist in the process toward maturity and adulthood; sadly, we, as a human species, have not always had the best role-models and often our choices do not follow the best advice and admonitions from the inborn instincts we do, in fact, possess.

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But, in that quote, what age range or stages comprise "childhood?"

I would assume he is talking about prolongation relative to animals, as opposed to the extended adolescence that we've been bombarded with for the past 4 decades.

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By "childhood" I understand Erikson to mean, perhaps metaphorically, that personal growth is ongoing and proceeds in its own time and space relative to many factors; but it is not simply in relation to the animal nature or defined by age range or stages; human nature is unique in itself and we are, from birth, born as "unfinished" with our life's task to complete the potential fullness of our nature which is universal and human; animal natures are different but not only because of different life-spans but because the life of an animal is by the very instincts it is born with already predetermined to be what it was meant to be; the fullness of the animals nature is already there and only needs the opportunity for growth; furthermore I believe Erikson was most certainly concerned with the "extended adolescence" which you mention and how psychology and sociology have historically and to the present day failed to fully investigate the nature of what it really means to be human; you might want to see Diana West's "The Death of the Grown-Up: How America's Arrested Development Is Bringing Down Western Civilization."

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Thanks, I'm good.

I was only aiming to point out that what Erikson meant by "prolonged childhood" was referring to only part of the 8 stages of psychosocial stages that he put forth as theory, as opposed to describing the whole of what he saw as human development.

Perhaps adults are always developing, but "prolonged childhood" is only part of that. And one can be "fully functional and 'healthy'" all along the way, within/throughout each stage, at least according to EE.

But I'm not so sure I buy into this epigenetic theory of psychology, anyways. It seems a rather limiting worldview.

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Yes, I know about Erikson's stages and have the perspective of looking back from his 8th stage at this time in my life; I have much to be grateful for and continue to receive life's blessings as part of the gift of life that our Creator granted to all of us; but I also harbor a deep cynicism born of the reality that I can find relatively few of the "fully functional and healthy"; still, there is hope , in that our species always produces rare individuals who appear when we need them most. Many thanks for our dialogue here and your challenging insights...all the best!

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To repeat myself, if malone was so virtuous and wanted to right his claimed wrong, he would sue for $1 + legal fees. $25M is purely an intimidation attempt.

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I'm on Team Breggin-Ruby-West!!

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